Craps 5 Count How It Works with Shooters

But what if you know that someone is a controlled shooter at your table?

Here’s what Catlin discovered:

SRR	1 to 7	1 to 7.5	1 to 8
Bet-All Total Wager	$6,288,946,698	$6,308,292,614	$6,328,476,546
5-C (RR) Total Wager	$3,085,464,168	$3,104,763,414	$3,124,989,558
Bet-All Win/loss	-$30,102,821	+$1,022,805	+$31,715,981
5-C (RR) Win/Loss	+$18,369,448	+$49,333,025	+$80,125,979

Interestingly enough, when someone is at the table with a SRR of 1 to 7.5, the game is positive for everyone placing the bet of 6 and 8. However, the difference in expectation between the 5-Counter who controls the dice at the above rates and the Bet-All player are profound. The 5-Count dice-controller is wagering approximately half as much money but winning an incredible amount more!

Let’s take a look at how the 5-Count has created such a dichotomy. Translated into small numbers that are easily digestible, the Bet-All player can be said to wager approximately $6,310 on the 6 and 8 with an expectation of losing about $30 when a controlled shooter with a 1 to 7 SRR is at the table; win $1 when a controlled shooter with a 1 to 7.5 SRR is at the table; and win $32 when a shooter with a 1 to 8 SRR is at the table.

Contrast this with the 5-Counter who is a dice controller. If the 5-Counter wagers the same amount of money, that is, $6,310, we can approximate that he will win around $36 when shooting at a 1 to 7 SRR; win about $100 when shooting with a 1 to 7.5 SRR; and win about $160 if his SRR is 1 to 8. Keep in mind, that the placing of the 6 and 8 comes in with a 1.5 percent house edge, so the 5-Counter who controls the dice has not only overcome the house edge against him, he’s made a nice profit for himself – all this at a table with nine other players, all random shooters. Again, factor in comps and the monetary edge is impressive.

Dr. Don Catlin’s massive simulations leave no doubt that the 5-Count is everything the Captain said it was. It’s utilization can, when proper bets are made, reduce the house’s hit on your total bankroll, give you a monetary edge in the overwhelming majority of comping situations, locate and exploit the rhythmic rollers or controlled shooters who happen to be at your table, and effectively increase your profits and edge when you are the controlled shooter or when you know someone else at the table is. The 5-Count is the only method of shooter qualification that has withstood such simulations and analyses, and come up smelling like, well, like the winner you’ll be if you use it.

And what of the players who say that the 5-Count takes too much discipline to play or that it’s too boring and can be disheartening at times? They can look at the above figures and ask themselves a simple question: In the simulations above, would you rather be the Bet-All player or the 5-Counter? If you say that you would rather be the Bet-All player you should not be at a craps table but on a psychiatrist’s coach!

And what of those critics who say that any shooter qualification method is as good as any other shooter qualification method which is to say there is nothing special about the 5-Count? Just say two words: Prove it.

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