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Craps 5 Count Shooters

Last issue I showed how the 5-Count could give a player a “monetary edge” even against random shooters. Now, we’ll look at how the 5-Count performs with controlled shooters at the table.

The second proposition that the Captain stated was that the 5-Count was the best way to limit losses while waiting for the conscious or unconscious rhythmic roller or controlled shooter to appear. That it acted as a sort of “range finder” and that once it honed in on a controlled shooter, you could make craps a positive expectation.
Catlin did a simulation designed to find out whether the 5-Count could actually do this.

He simulated 10 players (Player #1 through Player #10) with Player #1being the player whose statistics are reported.

Catlin ran 10,000,000 rounds (which is over 100,000,000 games) and got the following results:  Player #1 had an edge of 0.18 percent over the house.  Player #1 bet on Player #10 5,632,885 times and on Player Nine 5,084,975 times. The 5-Count selected the skilled shooter 10.7 percent more often than it selected the random shooter.  While this did not prove that the 5-Count will, in general, reduce the house edge [in this simulation the 5-Counter needed a shooter with a SRR of 1 to 7 to flip it over], the simulation clearly shows that if there is a skilled shooter at the table the 5-Count will select him with a higher frequency than the rest of the players and will thereby reduce the house edge or, as in this case, give the player the edge.  The simulation produced wins of $527,947.80 for Player #1 from total wagers of $292,716,290.

What would happen to a 5-Counter who found himself at the tables with such controlled shooters as Sharpshooter or Dominator or others in the Golden Touch crew sporting SRR of close to/or at 1 to 8? Catlin ran these figures through his simulation and this is what he found: “Reran program with SRR 1 to 8; there were 20 million rounds of play which produced in excess of 200 million games.  This time Player #1was on Player #10, a total of 12,152,952 times while on Player #9 a total of 10,165,524 times.  The result was a $6,852,787.80 profit with $596,017,946.00 put at risk. This represents a 1.15 percent return per dollar to the player.”

Keep in mind that Player #1 who is showing this profit is not a controlled shooter and does not know that a controlled shooter is at his table. He’s just utilizing the 5-Count as a normal part of his play. Yet, by making good house edge bets, Pass and Come with double odds, he has managed to get a real edge over the casino. Factor in comps now and you can see that he has a rather hefty monetary edge as well.



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